Subtle Version 0.3 Available


We just completed a major revision of the Subtle theme and are making it available for testing and use. In addition to numerous bugfixes, we’ve also completely rebuilt all of our graphics and CSS, making the theme leaner, cleaner and quite a bit wider. Here’s the list of changes:

  • Fixed bug: Comment form doesn’t render correctly when users aren’t allowed to comment.
  • Fixed bug: Footer displayed incorrectly in IE without CSS errors
  • Fixed bug: CSS validation issues with bad values
  • Fixed bug: Too many HTTP requests for multiple CSS files (nesting issue)
  • Rebuilt Photoshop template for wider design
  • Rebuilt CSS for wider design, resulting in 1/2 original file size
  • Moved all graphics CSS specifications into theme style CSS making the theme more customizable
  • Added error messages for file upload in Subtle
  • Added better support for uploading header images and resetting the original image
  • Added check for “More” tag on home loop, removing “Continue reading” if not found
  • Revised the default header graphic
  • Revised all prominent background graphics
  • Removed Uploaded_Header Theme Style
  • Removed extraneous tags and classes

Because we changed both the layout and XHTML structure of the theme to fix some rather serious bugs, this version is not compatible with previous Theme Styles, including Subversive. Also, in all of the changes we might have introduced some other bugs, so feel free to pass on your experiences with theme.

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Your post says that 0.3 is released where as the download is still for 0.21?

Whats the matter?

Actually, if you click to the Subtle page, you’ll notice that 0.3 is available and the download is updated, but we also have a 0.21 download page for users that might want to use the older codebase.

Oops - you’re right. I think my daughter hit the “enter” key before I got the link updated. :)

I appreciate your timely reply. I am using your theme and its really wonderful. One of the best themes I have come across.

A truly beautiful theme.

Could I suggest that perhaps having the number of comments for each post available somewhere on the front page would be good?

Shyam - thanks! It’s fun seeing how people use the theme too.

Saracen - It’s on the list of additions for 0.31. :)

[...] Fresh off the presses is a new version of the Subtle theme I’m now using. [...]

Hmm… Any idea why my “Archives” page (created with the template) doesn’t get the “current_page_item” class added to its <,li> tag like all the rest of my WP-generated pages do? Looks like all you’re doing is calling wp_list_pages, so I don’t have a clue why it wouldn’t, but thought you may have an idea, oh mighty theme authors! :)
Also, now that I’ve got my normal Archives page back (yayyy! Did I mention how great you guys are yet?), it’d be really great (although the admin panel looks like crap) to add widgets to it as well, so you can easily customize what gets shown on all the pages.

Hacked my own Archives widgets, but then I got stuck adding a new widget that lets me have another Categories display (so that I can have one on the main page and one on the archives page)… These things are a pain in the butt!

Great theme, hope to see more fun stuff coming! :)

Just activated 0.3…theme looks great except…archives and meta are now in the center of page under posts. Help?

Great! This is a wonderful timing. I was just lokking for a new version of this wonderful theme. There ist still the old screenshot.png in your 0.3 folder. I made an new one. You can simply donwload it from http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotsg9.png

Bye

jordan: Looks fine on mine. Did you make sure to replace the style.css file(s)? Perhaps your browser / Wordpress have them cached?

disregard last post…figured it out.
great job on an absolutely beautiful theme!

I tried to view my site http://www.shyiam.com in 800×600 and the whole design looked messy. I mean the sections were breaking and moved too left or too right at places. Then I tried Gluedideas and its the same there too. To my surprise, I tried to check the third site using same theme and it was same.

Screen Shot:
http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ss1fe4.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ss2hm0.jpg

So my question is this that is something wrong with my machine display or does the theme behave strange in 800×600 mode. I kn ow 800×600 is primitive as most of people use 1024×768 minimum but still I was curious to know.

Another problem was that I was typing this long comment and it wont let me see what I was typing as the comment area would scroll and at the end it would get stuck. I am going to put a screen shot of both for you guys to know what i am talking abt. Btw I typed this message in notepad and pasted over in comments.

Screen Shot:
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ss3re5.jpg

Thanks

Shyam - first off… rockin’ header on your site. Second - resize issue is definitely a confirmed bug that showed up in 0.3 and will be part of the next buggfix release. Thanks for the details descriptions, too.

Christian - Thanks for making that! I’ll get it into the next release.

Chris Meller - about the current_page_item problem - your guess is as good as mine. Is it a bug in WP? I’ll get something out on the forums tomorrow.

I think you’ve won me to adding widget panels to the archives page. I want to figure out why named widget groups don’t work correctly in some installs before I add more, but I think it’s a good idea to make the theme MORE widgetized and less fixed.

Shyam - about the comment box bug - confirmed here on that one too. I’m thinking of making some other changes to the comment box, so I might not need to worry too much about it. We’ll see.

Hi Christopher!
Thanks for reply in previous thread. Really, I regret asking that stupid question before looking thoroughly into the matter.
I have another (stupid) question. As for 0.3 - “container” got wider which is great for bloggy items, but while displaying them in full page it seems a bit too wide. How can I paste some of my sidebar widgets into full-page view, like it is on this site?

@@” Could you tell me the reason that I cannot use Lightbox JS (plugin), when I get this theme?

The plugins will be not availiable, when i apply this theme…

Thank you for you help. :)

Ray - I just tested it on my local machine and it worked without any problems. Can you give me a few more details about that it’s doing, etc.?

Daniyar - I’m working on a few possibilities for other widget panel locations. I’ll add your suggestion to the list.

Awesome job on the new release and it seem like everything looking good. Keep up the great work.

Christopher!

Thanks again for the header. If you want one like me, I can make one for you for free as a small gift of appreciation from my side for your nice theme.

Please continue to provide us wiht nice themes.

Regards,

I don’t know if you’ve caught this yet or not - I didn’t notice nay comments on this…

I’m not a big IE fan but I happen to be looking at this site with it and noticed that the subtle theme header and footer is 1 px too far left when you look at it with IE6. To fix this edit/add the following to layout.css:

FOR THE HEADER - edit this:

#header .style_content {
width: 859px; /* for IE */
height: 145px;
position: relative;
}

then add the following under it:


html>body #header .style_content {
width: 860px;
}

FOR THE FOOTER edit this:

#footer .style_content {
width: 861px; /* for IE */
padding: 40px 0px 0px;
}

Then add the following under it:


html>body #footer .style_content {
width: 860px;
}

Notice that the hack subtracts 1px from the header graphic width but adds 1px to the footer graphic width. The child selector rules that begin with html>body are not supported by IE but they are supported by other browsers like Firefox. The second (more specific) rules for the header and footer correct the width values for other browsers.

I would also mention that as I type this comment (while also in IE6) the scrollbar on the right of the textarea is only 2 or 3px wide as soon as you begin typing the comment.

I suggest that to make this work in IE that you change the width setting for #input_comment from 100% to 90% in layout.css:

#input_comment {
width: 90%; /* fix scrollbar */
}

You can play with other percentage values but 90% seems to work.

Nice theme by the way…

Greg - Thanks for the report! There’s actually a much simpler way to fix the 1px issue - I chopped the background graphic by a pixel and the CSS works as-is in both FF and IE. The problem is actually in the way they both render “center” - different math of handling aliasing. The graphic fix works in a much more stable way that using a hack. The fix will show up in 0.31.

As for the comment box problem - I’m looking at it in IE and not seeing the bug. This sounds ike a block-rendering bug in IE (incorrect handling of padding), but I’m just not getting the same results. I’ll look into reproducing it before I start playing with the CSS. Thanks again!

:( I have to completely redo my skin now. Oh well It’s not like anyone is going to help me with the CSS edits ive been asking about. So I guess it doesn’t matter.

Its funny how reluctant people are to make easy money on Wordpress, whereas every other community would jump through hoops for a dollar or fifty.

Okay so my wordpress looks totally messed up now…
http://www.the-deli.org/wp/

I just installed v 0.3 and it went from perfectly functional 0.2 to this.

Okay scratch that I dont know what was wrong but it seemed to fix itself. Now im looking to change the positions of my sidebars but Have no idea where to do this

My style.css sheet is basically empty?

Mike - the two main locations you want to check out are:

/assets/css/layout.css
/styles/default/default.css

To make edits, I strongly suggest that you make a copy of /styles/default/ rename it whatever you want your style name to be, set your Current Theme Options style to that new folder name, and then work on making edits from there. Editing the original default folder makes doing future upgrades a little rough.

I’ve just uploaded v0.31 with the following fixes and additions:

  • Added "edit comment" option on comment header
  • Fixed bug: 1px misalignment in Internet Explorer
  • Fixed bug: Resizing window below 820px would misalign content area
  • Added option to show comment count with posts on the home page
  • Added Digg, Technorati and Delicious links to posts with option to turn them off

If you’re upgrading and have a customized header, make sure to back up your header.jpg and header_menu.jpg files before you upload the new files. In the future I’ll have a check in place to avoid overwriting, but until then just make sure you’ve got copies of your files.

:) Im starting to regret customising considering the constant updates! It’s so rare to have someone so active in updating such a great style.

Chris, I was just wondering if you had any idea at all what I should be doing to extend the main content box and tighten up the other two columns - I have a photo heavy blog and I hate using thumbnails. So I need a main content box which can handle images of up to 500px, Right now, posting an image that large just messes up the entire style.

Any help at all would be hugely appreciated. I can’t wait to unveil the new site! Certainly a big step up from Nucleus anyway.

Mike - I’m going flying to Hawaii on Friday, so expect a lapse in this behavior. :)
As far as changing the layout, do what I said about making a copy of the default style and then work from that copy. Upgrades should be easy then. As far as WHAT to change… here’s some code to add to your copied default.css:


#loop_articles {
width: 610px;
float: left;
}

#widgets, #post_meta {
width: 150px;
padding: 0px;
margin: 0px 0px 30px 20px;
float: right;
}

#post_meta .odd, #post_meta .even {
float: left;
clear: left;
}

Make sure to also pull the site description from the Current Theme Options. That should get you going for the front page.

I love you forever, you are my favourite.

Thanks so much. Will let you know how it goes.

If i dont speak to you before then, Enjoy Hawaii!

Hi Chris! I just thought i’d let you know what your edit looks like

http://www.the-deli.org/wp/

Fantastic! Thanks soo much for this, Im now 80% of the way there!

One small problem though, The Column B simply moves bellow Column A rather than shifting right. Any idea why that is and how I can fix it?

Im reserving that column for ads in the future, which are traditionally 160px wide. I think its good to have an ads column because it means viewers don’t have to have the navigation column interrupted and can essentially chose to ignore ads.

Hi Christopher,

Great theme, thanks a lot. One small detail: On my computer, there seems to be a height difference between Explorer and Firefox: Everything is fine under Explorer, no scroller on the side, but under Firefox, the page is too long to fit on my screen (although the content is not), and a scroller appears on the right.

I’m still using version 0.30.

Hey Chris,

First of all - awesome theme, this is exactly what I was looking for.

I have been trying to get my header up to standard but I am having quite the difficulty with it. If you visit http://www.gibthis.com/ you will see the red GibThis logo to the left. It should be much, much, brighter than it is now. As of now it is quite subdued and doesn’t attract any attention.

I believe this is because of the shading/gradients, but I can’t find a way around it. I have attempted to place this logo as part of the background (like it is now) and I get this faded look. I have replaced the Topic and Tagline with an img tag, thinking this would be placed above the shading. It is, but IE’s awesome PNG support (read: no support) causes an off-grey halo to surround my image - and I don’t think it’s of the quality to save as a GIF.

Any ideas on how I can brighten this image up a bit? I remember reading a trick that would make IE view PNG transparencies correctly, but can’t remember where I found it. Would that work?

Once again - thanks for the great theme!

hi guys, my widgets seems not to appear on the main page with that theme. ive tried with other and its fine. but in subtle it only appears archives and meta. why? check out http://www.justshannen.com thanks!

Hi,

Really nice job !
Do you think you will work to make it work with the gallery2 plugin ? That would be really fantastic !

Thanks

Mike - I’m really glad to see The Deli going. You’re doing some cool stuff with the theme.

Philippe - Do you think you could get a screenshot of that and make it available? I’m not seeing the problem on my end.

Michael Wales - your best bet, since you’re doing something a little wacky, is to use the Photoshop file that’s available on the download page for Subtle to build your own custom header. Take a look at styles/default/header.jpg and styles/default/header_menu.jpg for the sizes and look that you need to get.

hey people . .

for those of u , who doesnt like the default images and icons . . u might want to check out my site . .where i have places modified version of it .. if i have permission, then i will put the zip file here.. and if u request more gfx in more colors, u will get it too . . i will do this for free. .coz i like this skin so much . luv u all : ) . .

( admins from here, plz mail or comment at my blog, so that i dont get lost :P )

Thanks for the theme– I’m using it with Apart, and it’s by far the nicest thing I’ve worked with! I love the combination of minimilistic feel and colors with extensive functionality.

My question is probably a really stupid one, but I haven’t been able to figure it out on my own. The theme installed beautifully, but the “From this author” in “information and links” and “author feed” in the author archive page don’t work (i.e., they bring me back to my host’s front page, the equivalent of a not found error). So… is the link these go to– domain/author/username/feed/and /author/username supposed to work automatically, or is there something I’m supposed to do to make them functional?

Hi Christopher,

If you go to http://www.attiksystem.ch/wordpress/ for example, with a computer with a big screen, you’ll see that with Firefox, although there is a lot of place at the bottom of the screen for the footer, it is not visible until you use the right scroller, which should not be activated. With Explorer, I do not have that problem at all.

I have the feeling the window height is not calculated correctly with Firefox…

Cheers

but the “From this author” in “information and links” and “author feed” in the author archive page don’t work

Never mind– I was using the wrong version :).

hi, how can i change the width of the main table? i mean the downloaded-theme isn’t like for example, http://quaker2.org/ in width. i’ve tried edit the layout.css via assents but too many info, lol

Thanks so much chris :) I love the theme and its perfect for the site. Thanks so much for helping me so far.
I hope Hawaii was all you’d expected.

Anyway All i have to do for the refined final design is
- Make the B column display correctly next to the A column

- Where the title of the post is Im going to try and introduce some kind of distinctive header because right now it’s hard to notice where a new post starts.

- Make the text at the top disappear to leave only the image.

Thats pretty much it! I’ll report back soon with my progress :)

Subversive dark theme, doesn’t works properly with the latest version 0.3 of Subtle, are u guys gonna fix it? coz its better the dark one, thanks!

I was wondering how you guys put together the “Our Thoughts” section on this site. I looks like it is aside like function but is it a widget? Let me know

#49
I also want to know how to put ‘our thought’ section and recent post on there? my blog have a big empty space there, it isn’t look good.

Just upgraded from 0.2 and am having some display problems. Such as The archives and meta being under comments on my pages. Also the search bar is pretty much in the middle of the page. Also also also I must be definitely doing something wrong because after I upgraded the text that I typed in the information box in the old version appears in the upgraded version. I’m thinking that there is some old data or files remaining from the previous version.

The way I updated the theme was that I used my FTP to delete the old theme folder gluedideas_subtle completely and then I replaced it with the new folder. Is there something else that i need to replace or alter ???? Thanks by the way great theme

Credit where credit is due, this is one of the smartest themes for wordpress to be released in a long time by far. I immediately took to it and made a few modifications to use it on my blog. Thank you for your hard work.

I am running 0.31 and all works fine on FF (as usual) but in IE6 I am having problems with the sidebar. Instead of 2 columns it’s merging into a single column. I’ve noticed this on a couple of other sites using your theme. Do you have any idea how I might go about fixing this?

IE is a pain, but it’s here to stay so I’d like to get my blog working on as many browsers as possible.

Can someone please explain how to enable two columns under the blog description on the main page? I see that most of you are utilizing two columns, however I am not seeing any options to allow this. Do I need to install an additional plug-in? Thanks for your help!

We’re still in Hawaii (and having a great time) so updates will be coming next week, but I have a moment to get out a few replies, so here we go:

Hannah - Glad you got it working!

Philippe - I think that’s fixed in 0.32, but I need to check it on my desktop at home to be sure.
Michael - loving the background on The Deli!

Paris - Subversive really jacks up 0.3. I’ll be releasing a public version of the style we’re using on Shooting the Kids after I get back from Hawaii, and we might even re-release a new version of Subversive too.

Dennis & Ucubz - Yes, it’s the Sideblog widget and we played with the output HTML to get it to look like that.

Eli - there’s something VERY odd about what’s going on there. I’ll create a similar setup on my test machine when I get home and see if I can replicate and fix the problem. Thanks for the bug report.

Andrew - thanks! LOVE your site. About the sidebars - I THINK it’s completely fixed in 0.32 (I had to rewrite some of my XHTML + CSS to fix it) so expect a fixed release sometime next week.

Jim - Looks like you got it working. Let me know if you have any other problems.

Let me first say thank you for a wonderful theme :) I’ve been playing around with this theme on my local install of WordPress and have noticed a very off behavious occuring in pages created that use the “Default template” page.
I’ve posted a screen, which can be found here: http://www.sdjl.co.uk/screen.png

Basically, the sidebar seems to appear below any content. This is the same for the default sidebar, or the widget sidebar.

Any ideas are welcome because i’m stumped! It doesn’t seem to happen on anyone elses theme that i can see!

David

Hey Chris thanks for the quick reply. The majority of the theme works perfectly fine using mozilla, except for what I mentioned earlier. With IE it skews everything to the left and the right side bar goes under the left side bar.

I’m having similar problems as david above.

Have fun in Hawaii and thanks for all the help, your theme and constant updates kicks ass.

Firstly, thank you for this superb theme you’ve created. I am a total newbie to the world of blogging, and having looked so hard for a decent theme that was supported, still being developed, and stunning visually, I’d almost given up. Subtle, however, is brilliant.

I am having a few problems though, similar to David. Also, on my contact form, the box isn’t complete although I’m not sure this is a Subtle issue or a plugin issue.

Hi Chris,
Thanks for the comments!
I was wondering if you got my email yet per chance. Let me know when you get back from Hawaii and I can discuss it with you further.
Mike.

So far the theme looks great. I use it on my personal blog. It makes my blog look professional. Keep up the good work…

Hi, I upgraded from 0.1 to 0.31 and now I dont have the themes option menu? I tried to go back to 0.1 and the themes option menu had gone from that too :s Any way to get it back?

Thanks

Hi! I’m new to wordpress. I’ve been looking for themes and I love your Subtle. Now, I’m in the process of putting everything together. How do I get the about box (site description) to show? Sorry, if I sound dumb. Like I mentioned, I’m new to this whole thing.

Thanks!

Awesome theme. I just switched from Textpattern to Wordpress and this theme is way beyond anything I’ve seen for TXP, and is the best theme I’ve seen for Wordpress.

Is there any project for an easy translation? I try to translate the theme to turkish, but I can’t find where the texts for popups like “view all..” are located? By the way, this is one of the best themes for wordpress, thanks.

This is a wonderful theme except for a few small cross browser compatibility issues that have been worked out. One thing I noticed is that the sidebar content (or widgets) will float (left) into the main content area if there is not enough actual content to hold them where they are supposed to be. Just as an example you can do a search on this site for something like “213k213kl2″ and you will see what I am talking about. The quickest hack I was able to find to fix this issue was to do the following.

#loop_articles {
width: 440px;
float: left;
height: 500px;
}

html>body #loop_articles {
width: 440px;
float: left;
min-height: 500px;
height: auto;
}

First off - Thanks to everyone for your kind words and bug reports! If you’ve had problems with 0.31, make sure to download 0.32, since it fixes a number of problems mentioned here.

David - I think it’s fixed in 0.32. I tested in Konqueror and it seems to be fine now.

Eli - Again - I looks like it’s fixed in 0.32. Try it out and let me know.

Michael - got it and will reply this afternoon.

Luke - Not sure what’s going on there, since it should still be there. Have you added anything else to the mix?

Val - go to “Current Theme Options” and make sure “Site Description” has something written in it. Also, make sure you’re using the latest version of Subtle, as it fixes some issues with the about box.

Kunduz - we’re looking into that, actually. Have you worked with other systems that I should check into for tips on how to begin doing this?

Jason - Should be fixed in 0.32 - it’s the same issue David mentioned above. Try out the new version and let me know if it works for you.

Ah, i found out that this theme doesn’t seem to work well with the theme switcher plugin. Although i did have them both working at one point. Well, thats how i fixed it anyway.

I am Argentine, I want you a question:
Is free the use of your theme?
I am new user blogs then do not want to use it if it’s not available for anybody.
thanks.

again, sorry! if it’s free, could I modify its jpg´s, css and php to give the theme my owner design?